hi CM: Just want to add a few pieces of information. Actually, not all these "drugs" have long-term cognitive effects. e.g. Cannabis, cocaine.. etc. Second, if you know which drug the interviewee had been used, you can look it up in detail. If you read "psychological dependence", then it means that a dependence is not quite exist. But if you see "pharmacological dependence", then there is a real craving. Many people don't know, heroin addicts had nearly no cognitive deficits, but it has got a major pharmacological dependence. The recommendation is that if you are "sure" that heroin addict has got rid of their pharmacological dependence somehow, theoretically his brain is alright. But you have to take in account of his lack of experience across the years of addiction and subculture issues. Some other types of addictions will cause a permanent brain damage however. But the issues are too complicated to explain here. There can be some assessment done to ascertain the cognitive effects, but there is no expertise in Hong Kong to do so yet. BTW, drink less alcohol is another recommendation. Cheers.
Great to have your refreshes! Scientific researches really helps us a lot identify the reality from public understanding.
I didn't know anything about psychological dependence and pharmacological dependence until you told me. And it is sad that whatever type this dependence is, dependence still develops. Someone did tell me that some drugs like Ketamine can cause permanent brain damage. What even sadder is, misuse (or abuse) of this kind of drug is just a one-way ticket.
Hi CM, In fact, the NGO or the hospital authorities put "psychological dependence" out when the drug does not have "real pharmacological dependence" to frighten people, I guess it is good. The former means only that the person like to reexperience the good effects or use it to escape from anxiety etc. However, the latter triggers abstinence symptoms, like those in the films... . If heroine does not have dependence, it is better to choose heroine (not overdose of course) than alcohol ar :) in long terms. Cheers
Goose knife good good good bell two add brown taste wheat tornado!!
亦妹:
(you no fish get go law but la)
mud knife duck? yes rice yes first...
Bravo:
Perhaps the public would be quite confused between the term "psychological dependence" and "addiction". (I'm just one of the public mass). It makes sense for NGOs to deliver an "understandable" message instead of scientific jargons. Yes, they are doing good.
46 comments:
"母親說不要緊,戒了 K 仔已經是天大的安慰。
下次有機會我們一起再來。"
唔......
酒、毒、嫖、賭---害人不淺。
真係戒得甩就係天大既安慰…
嗯...
戒得甩翻發機會都好大
通常哩啲人都係自制能力好差嘅
對佢哋嘅家人來講就好似有隻炸彈係身邊
最辛苦係家人
掉番轉頭, 不知兩母子有沒有持續地接受專業的支援?
要關心青少年免受毒品引誘, 更關心那些戒除毒隱的青少年如何重投社會. 因為困難, 所以更要付出更多.
睇完再補充:你可以話我不成熟, 可以說這樣做對機構的生產力/其他同事不公, 亦可以說這種事應由政府/社福機構負責, 不過, 我會覺得如果公司人事部當時給予一個接納的訊息, 絕對勝過每年搞搞甚麼義工活動, 搞甚麼籌款活動; 當然機構往往要求本小利大, 所以最容易成名的活動往往多人組織, 反而真正有機會直接幫助他人的卻沒人肯付出.
我認應各類嘅軟性毒品祗不過這些問題青年們嘅多種問題/惡習之一頃. 如果這些青年不徹底改過, 其他的問題巳足夠毀丟他們的一生.
C.M.兄,
今次依一篇既重心,擺左係戒既問題上面,well...從一個洗心革面,改過自身既角度,咁既故仔的確振奮人心...
只係,AK更加重視既係...未戒,未食之前,點解要食?每一個沉迷既背後,總有佢自己既故事...
Samsara姐姐,
你都係由得我飲啦...酒係人類最偉大既發明黎架...
On兄: 嗯。(Errr...)
香水妹妹: 酒呀... 呵呵呵。
菲菲: 人心肉造,又堅強又軟弱。但願可以。
兵妹: 雖然家人辛苦,但係佢地會係最大既支持。(唉...)
Jacky: 啊,對對對,還要專業支援。而且,你的想法,以我看來,不是不成熟,甚至是值得借鏡!人事部,就算因為公司政策(etc.)而未能提供一個就業的機會,但通過這個面試,讓這些求職者感受到“接納”,其所產生的效用,絕對是社會責任的實質體現。
多謝你,Jacky!
AK兄: Bingo!你明確地指出了小弟的用意。你覺得如果採用呢個大綱去拍另一出政府廣告,會唔會好d呢?(再再加埋Jacky個idea)
又呢,我覺得呢,果個“倒錢落海”叫人唔好沉迷賭錢個廣告好白痴囉。
AK哥哥:我有個妹妹佢阿媽係alcholic,依幾個禮拜已經入過兩次急症。
上個禮拜又入院切除一部份壞死既肝,佢本來係唔駛做手術既,只要戒一段時間酒就得,只係一段時間,唔係一世,但係佢都唔肯,寧願做手術。本來昨日出院,結果傷口發炎,要拆晒線清傷口再縫返佢,依個係人肉,唔係豬皮。妹妹佢阿媽其實係想死。
又,你知我講緊你就最好啦!
AK:
Samsara同我都好關心你的身體, 見親次次都飲(酒), 真係傷肝, 嚴重係可以致命o架!
大吉利是講句: 若然你有女朋友(甚至老婆仔女), 但唔好彩個肝有事, 又咁後生, 留低他們, 點算呀? 你甘心嗎?
係當我o地朋友o既, 請你飲少d(慢慢戒), 一年check至少身體一次啦!
大家都想你好o架!
講起毒品, 都幾同意Samsara所講"酒、毒、嫖、賭--害人不淺。"
有次睇專題報導, 話吸毒會令人大小便失禁, 講到呢度, 真係......唉!
幾同意你同Jacky所講的話, 但很多時候, 人都係貌相居多(我認我都係, 不過都盡量不以樣貌行先), 以及公司的政策問題, 所以若然想請呢d康復者, 最好都係有社會服務機構一齊做會較好, 至少他們有甚麼不對路的地方(例如表現突然失常等), 這些機構的社工會back-up同follow-up。
至於政府d廣告, 想達到目的同效果, 不如用多少少錢, 揾番4A廣告公司諗諗啦(睇有個廉記廣告就知----貪污遊戲, 就係4A廣告公司度o架)!
香水妹妹:
酒,之所以醉人,因為,此刻沒有人比酒更能醉人。
酒,之所以傷人,因為,過往曾經有人比酒更能傷人。
Karen:
你講得好o岩呀。吸毒(者)本身已經將理性拋開,對於理性,無法抓緊,也有心無力。這個媽媽,不單要讓子女看到母親的關懷,也要讓這些母親知道,何謂接納。
>>未食之前,點解要食?
這句,可以深究。
你們知道嗎?和玩具一樣,在外國,很多酒類廣告(即alcho-pop)都target意智未完全成長的一代。為甚麼?
身體髮膚受諸父母,記緊要保重保重。
CM哥哥:
好耐之前有部戲好似叫兩夥絶望的心,影帝Nicholas Cage果種拼命既飲酒法真係嚇人,我仲好記得有一幕係佢坐在椅度,伸高頭成枝酒倒落去,好似希望浸死自己咁樣。部戲真係沈重到我係睇完之後一下子起唔到身,佢無交代到Cage做乜搞成咁,但係人要自毁起上來,真係可以好恐怖。
Karen妹妹&綿花妹妹:
我中學時去過浪茄介毒村,d哥哥就會同我地講故仔。有個話佢全家人都係做偏門,個個都吸毒,佢個圏子係覺得無錢吸毒係好渣既事。
有另一個呢,就話自己戒左好多次,為左攞錢吸毒,乜都做得出;佢覺得好對唔住老婆,今次真係洗心革臉喎,希望佢真係得啦。
佢地都係d好大隻個樣好堅強既大男人,好多人介完又食返依個事實,令我傾向相信毒真係有好大魔力。
果時,我同自己講,我一定唔會掂毒,我都唔係好肯定如果我染左毒癮既話戒唔戒到,我既意志力,係零。
Samsara姐姐,
Leaving Las Vegas依套戲...係一套AK會重睇又重睇既戲...每次睇都會有一d唔同...或者,每一個人都總有佢既理由...
C.M.兄,
......你講到咁...唔識答你啦...
「呢D嘢, 我係唔會試架!」
仲記唔記得呢個廣告?
我鍾意飲少少酒wing吓wing吓咁同朋友傾偈.
但係劈到要劏呢, no good stir me.
棉花妹妹: 嗯,同意。除左外在因素,還要加上內在因素。
肥醫生: 緊記緊記,多謝。但願年輕人們明白。
香水姐姐: 我都記得呢套戲(...不過我無睇)。一刀割脈,流血不止。一索毒品,不能自拔。人始終血肉之軀。
AK兄: 咁,你諗住幾時戒酒呢?
鶴兄: 個廣告有d印象(... 不過唔記得左)。要劏?knife no good stir me...
ak 師兄呀
生日我地唔飲架
(不如食小菜呀,我要同卑鄙的人爭送食)
七十師妹,
生日前後好似有唔錯既大閘蟹喎... :)
到時On Dog兄會識得配酒架啦:)
邊個卑鄙牙你卑鄙,邊個林善牙我林善... 邊個敢同大小姐爭呀。(BTW,琴晚無拉拉發夢見到果個女人同佢男人搭巴士,該燴)
AK兄,為免順得哥情失嫂意... 你不如提議食醉蟹喇。
AK兄:忍唔住, 都係要唱:
千杯酒已喝下去, 都不醉! 何況春風秋雨?
幾多不對說在你口裡, 但也不感觸一句...
CM兄: 食醉蟹...咁...都得? (X9XXX)
食醉蟹...
邊個聰明呀佢聰明
又
咩男人女人呀
嘩!你d回覆呢.....追死我呀
酒,o拿喉嚨。
唔明白有乜好飲
就算容易入口個d
都唔覺得好味遮
飲湯仲好味喇
醉雞醉蟹?
都係有d o拿喉嚨既酒精成份係度
真係唔好味喎
七十妹妹既提議好呀
小菜加個湯添
冇得頂啦
阿Redford真係好鬼掃興嘅啫, 响牡丹樓開raw day conference good no???
hi CM:
Just want to add a few pieces of information. Actually, not all these "drugs" have long-term cognitive effects. e.g. Cannabis, cocaine.. etc. Second, if you know which drug the interviewee had been used, you can look it up in detail. If you read "psychological dependence", then it means that a dependence is not quite exist. But if you see "pharmacological dependence", then there is a real craving. Many people don't know, heroin addicts had nearly no cognitive deficits, but it has got a major pharmacological dependence. The recommendation is that if you are "sure" that heroin addict has got rid of their pharmacological dependence somehow, theoretically his brain is alright. But you have to take in account of his lack of experience across the years of addiction and subculture issues. Some other types of addictions will cause a permanent brain damage however. But the issues are too complicated to explain here. There can be some assessment done to ascertain the cognitive effects, but there is no expertise in Hong Kong to do so yet. BTW, drink less alcohol is another recommendation. Cheers.
On兄:
X9XXX ...?哈哈,好!敬你X7XXX!
危樓姐姐:
夢中個男人,咪就係同你一齊果個男人law (所以咪話該燴囉)
Law But:
湯,好哇!不如叫個黑糯米酒雞湯丫,好補架聽講。(仲唔會o拿喉添)
鶴兄:
BTW,你幾時raw day 呀?
Bravo:
Great to have your refreshes! Scientific researches really helps us a lot identify the reality from public understanding.
I didn't know anything about psychological dependence and pharmacological dependence until you told me. And it is sad that whatever type this dependence is, dependence still develops. Someone did tell me that some drugs like Ketamine can cause permanent brain damage. What even sadder is, misuse (or abuse) of this kind of drug is just a one-way ticket.
AK, got that? :)
認同翼翼,覺得酒唔好飲。
AK,雖然同你三九唔識七,但當我求你,求吓你,唔好飲咁多,好無?
我三日唔埋兩日就勸人戒酒戒煙,係,我係好煩,但我唔想睇住我啲朋友辛苦,狂飲酒狂食煙,後果我知道,後果我見到,我唔忍心,我唔忍心。
惡妹妹:
AK哥哥不停強調每一個人都總有佢既理由,不幸地係真既。我公司妹妹佢媽媽,真係有一個好痛苦既經歷。
不過,我地又睇下妹妹佢呀,佢生於破到碎晒既家庭,仲要由細到大都過人球生活,面對過好多真係好困難既野。
但係,妹妹雖然成績唔好,數學極差,但係佢無學壞,無掂毒、唔酗酒,無自暴自棄,正正經經揾份工,自食其力。
雖然佢好無安全感勁燥底,令我真係試過好鬼嬲。但係在佢應承我要乖之後,我見到佢有好明顯既改善,本來佢日日遲到起碼半個鍾,依家一日都未遲過到,仲早過我;真係發少左脾氣,而且好快就識收。
我真係估唔到一個只有二十歲既妹妹會教我咁多野,而且,你睇,要一個點樣既人生,完全係自己揀。
火大俠:牡丹樓開raw day conference knife good wok!goose bell two add brown taste wheat tornado.
sara,
add brown taste wheat tornado? one star period drunk many one cup good la.
如果有字對字中文輸入法呢, 我諗我打中文會好快囉.
Samsara:
完全明白及認同。每個人都有自己o既經歷同選擇,即使係飲酒、食煙,或者各種慢性自殺行為都係自己選擇,係真係真係無需要話,為左呀邊個邊個屋企人呀朋友而要改變、交待,但我相信關懷(或者核突啲講句「愛」),可以令人快點走出那些經歷,不再選擇用那些看來傷身的方式來抵禦痛苦。
fire,
no yes say round all no jing
loi no middle jing little little knife ok geh
cm,
no la throat, mud knife duck
Hi CM,
In fact, the NGO or the hospital authorities put "psychological dependence" out when the drug does not have "real pharmacological dependence" to frighten people, I guess it is good. The former means only that the person like to reexperience the good effects or use it to escape from anxiety etc. However, the latter triggers abstinence symptoms, like those in the films... . If heroine does not have dependence, it is better to choose heroine (not overdose of course) than alcohol ar :) in long terms.
Cheers
係咪我太耐無睇 blog...?
Samsara: 條命點過完全係自己揀的 - 實在係人生中多條「知易行難」的大道理之一
回想一下﹐我地由細到大﹐聽過幾多類似的「知易行難人生大道理」系列?能做到的又有幾人?
AK兄:
惡妹同香水妹妹都語重心長呀。
惡妹:
記得要做榜樣!
香水妹妹:
Goose knife good good good bell two add brown taste wheat tornado!!
亦妹:
(you no fish get go law but la)
mud knife duck? yes rice yes first...
Bravo:
Perhaps the public would be quite confused between the term "psychological dependence" and "addiction". (I'm just one of the public mass). It makes sense for NGOs to deliver an "understandable" message instead of scientific jargons. Yes, they are doing good.
Bravo, btw, do you drink? ^_*
Tommy:
知易行難... 能行足全程,自然可喜,但能行一步,就一步的,也值得敬重。
get go law but gold you waist side pass ah?
hehe no duck no duck :p
嘩,原來cm大人一星期前已經講緊程音語口中的網友K架拿?!哈哈
好鬼低能呀你地
> 好鬼低能呀你地
me knife yes gold tell!
Easy Also: :( (dum ground!)
喵喵: 睇左好耐,呢個網友K 實在有幾個可能... 查實係邊個呢?(嘻嘻,有冇貼士?)
Crane:
>>me knife yes gold tell!
You pass thief cry catch thief!
wolf bro,
sara centre left banana, knife few salt heavy down!
Crane Bro,
fragrant water no only few salt heavy, is good good salt heavy!
wolf crane double style (others are tiger crane double style),
then you guys should add a little sugar or honey to dilute the fragrant water la, so that she won't be so salt heavy la ma!
Easy Also,
you are killing me!
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