Sunday, September 14, 2008

暈都想

新貴黨

無耐前講過 Tungpo 果度好有知識分子feel。到今日,都係,佢地好厲害。

其中呢幾日提到某新貴黨派(雖然都唔新)。

我覺得,若法律專家,只重法律條文,不重法律原則,一無知。以為天下之難事盡能以法解決,二無知。目中有法,但無人,無恥。

大爆炸

專家之言,其力之大,堪比先知。

其未知之數,比可見之事,更具力量。

若有世界末日,我寧願信先知。

何以我們可以尊重因科學之名而引起的全球性恐慌,但何以不能接受三數個所謂唯恐天下不亂者? (睇番自己有d驚,Disclaimer:拿,唔好亂咁對號呀)

中秋節

祝大家身體健康!

26 comments:

佚名 said...

C.M.:
祝C.M中秋節快樂!!身體健康!!

制定法律就是為了保護人權,如果法律非用於人身上?那要制定法律做甚麼呢??

法律前人人平等嘛!

Marshmallow said...

中秋節快樂!!點呀,睇睇醫生好喎

篤篤篤撐 said...

叱幾日掛住睇波, 遲左tim,
中秋節快樂!!

小女子 said...

你咁講法律 ... 真係要幾思下先,遲下小女子想讀添 ...

christina said...

You won't understand how happy I am to see your message again. I truly do. Because that shows you are free = you are not the yoshinoya saint being locked up now. As you already knew from your experience, christians have divine right to break the ten dumb rules engraved by the almighty god and pray again to get their sins forgiven. Then reboot, whoa ho! A brand new born-again christian.

Oh but excuse me. I truly don't think we have anything at all. At least I won't believe bull sh-- like a virgin having no sex can be pregnant, or some guy open up his arms and divided the ocean etc. These are "factual". Wow.

Since I never signed up for any garden tour, can our very determined god believer kindly -- and clearly -- explain how can Jesus come alive when his mommy didn't have sex at all?

p.e.t.e.r. said...

先知?咩黎架

C.M. said...

小佚:

祝你身體健康!

>>制定法律就是為了保護人權,如果法律非用於人身上?那要制定法律做甚麼呢??

嗯,雖然似乎好合理,但法律唔一定要保護人權既。亦可以用黎限制他人人權,甚至係限制其他非我族類既人權(例如戰爭法)。而又有法律,可以同時限制某部分人人權,先可以保障其他部分人人權既(例如環保、吸煙、墮胎)。

綿綿:

哎喲,雖然中秋過左,不過祝你日日都快樂!(嗯,我諗住博一博,等醫生黎睇我)

篤撐兄:

我都祝你日日快樂!(真係開心囉,我就連睇新聞都幾乎冇時間呀...)

C.M. said...

高挑女子:

哦,我唔係講法律,我係講果批自問正義既法律人才遮。表裏一致,對於佢地既選民,我覺得好重要(雖然我唔係佢地選民)。

若果做流氓或爛仔律師,都係一份工遮,何況法律不在乎公義(人在乎遮,但條文「唔識」在乎既),我唔會覺得有咩問題。但又若果口聲聲話公義,但其實肚子裏並非一回事,我就覺得呢d係無恥(我應該係第一次咁話人)。

雖然我相信新貴黨裏面並非所有人都係咁,不過,我認,今次我番話都幾一竹篙打一船人架。(尤其落選左既張CH,根據某d評論,查實我會好鍾意佢)

(讀法律,好呀!好多工種都牽涉法律,好有用架!我依家日日幾乎對住法例做人呀。)

christina:

Thanks, and I'm glad I can see your message too!

>>christians have divine right to break the ten dumb rules
>>pray to get their sins forgiven
>>Then reboot, whoa ho! A brand new born-again christian.

My first reaction was to divide the above view into three parts.

1. If observing (sticking to) rules is what a Christian should do, breaking rules is not a right but a mistake. This is a kind of mistake that may rid oneself the "identity" as a Christian.

If observing rules is not what a Christian should do, there shall be no rules for Christians. God will decide.

2. No one really knows if "sin" is forgiven. One may have "faith" to believe if his sin if forgiven. Other people may choose to or not to forgive others' mistakes.

3. That "reborn" term is lively! Yes, one may be reborn. Reborn is a term that may not be fully accepted by everyone. To me, "reborn" can be a term that may be physical, physiological, mental, spiritual and even "faithful" in meaning. It really depends on how one interprets it.

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It's entirely one's choice to forgive another or not.

I believe we do have common thoughts. And You are right that I also believe that I am believin in something that you may see as bull sh.

If life is just a spark of time and dies away like dust, it just doesn't matter what people believe.

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If I the last question is addressing to me, I must tell you I am not able to answer your last question.

I am NOT a very determined believer of God.

P.E.T.E.R.:

我心目中既先知嘛,咪就係所謂信則有不信則無果亭囉(又或者係你信但我唔信果亭)

Marshmallow said...

Christina

When interpreting the Bible, I think it is important to separate what is reality, and what is a concept.

I too do not believe in the miraculous conception, nor do I believe that Jesus died and risen again. However, I do believe in the concepts of Christianity (as I do believe in the concepts of many other religion, cults aside), that Jesus once existed as a human being, and left us stories that contain the fundamental rules of being a human, that is, one should honour their father and mother, one should not kill, one should not steal what one does not own, and one should be kind to others. Follow these rules, and one will die, as all human beings do, without regrets.

As you said rightly, I do not believe that breaking the rules and then “rebooting” will have your sins forgiven, rather I believe in not breaking the rules in the first place. It is not up to us to judge those who did die with regrets (“Thou shall not make yourself an idol”), nor is it important to us whether they indeed “rebooted”. However, the teaching and the rules remain, and this cannot be doubted, otherwise you will be doubting the fundamental "regulations" of human mankind.

Religious conflicts often arise when different religious groups choose to interpret the Bible line by line, neglecting the underlying meaning of each story. It is important for the sake of human peace, that we command rational thinking during our interpretation, and then you will realise, that all religion originated with good intention.

佚名 said...

C.M:
嗯,雖然似乎好合理,但法律唔一定要保護人權既。亦可以用黎限制他人人權,甚至係限制其他非我族類既人權(例如戰爭法)。而又有法律,可以同時限制某部分人人權,先可以保障其他部分人人權既(例如環保、吸煙、墮胎)。
-->c.m說得對啊!法律就是如此,你說的與我老師所說差不多~
法律是限制大隻佬,保護弱小!

xiao zhu said...

法律其實是人類自己製造出來的機械人。

p.e.t.e.r. said...

>弱小

果d係有錢人
查實一d都唔弱小

>人類自己製造出來的機械人

法律既精神係好既
法律既規條係死既
不過係呢個本末倒置既社會制度之下
法律.....唉!

>I am NOT a very determined believer of God

If there is a God
He is not there for you to believe in.
He's here for you to be friend with.

Believe is nothing
the Devil (if there is a God, there is a Devil) also believe there is a God, so what?
so don't just be a believer (whether determined or not), be friend with Him

Karen (Sze) said...

>>好多工種都牽涉法律,好有用架!我依家日日幾乎對住法例做人呀。

大家咁話。

>>法律其實是人類自己製造出來的機械人。

或者, 最好問下:點解要有法律的存在?

呢個問題, 除了涉及人本身的問題, 件事本身對錯和對別人的影響, 亦是重要因素(太長, 搵法律專家答好d)。

不過, 若然無法律, 世界亦無法無天。

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對於公文袋(我較prefer咁樣稱呼)今次的選舉result, 有人話係佢係龜兔賽跑的那隻兔子, 但係, 個人見解係:

1. 於香港區: 打告急牌和黨魁的號召力, 再加上有些人的確睇第一大黨唔順眼, 您係見到佢地嬴第一大黨成條街。

2. 於九龍西:毛姑姑俾郁人狂插加上論壇表現太造作, 以及鼠王芬有機可乘(有傳係會計琼動用配票幫鼠王芬), 所以輸。

3. 新界東同九龍東: 雖然站得住腳, 但第二梯隊暫難發圍。

4. 新界西: 呢區除了貧民多(天水圍和元朗), 勞工和夾心階層亦多, 相對而言中產較其他地方少; 因此, 專幫勞工, 貧民和夾心階層兼具備一定知名度的候選人就搶到票(如: 人哥, 大舊業, 工會興和白髪忠就係好例子); 鬍鬚雄雖然在上屆立法局表現較佳(尤其係協助弱勢社群真係不遺餘力, 或多或少係同佢女兒有關), 但要爭中產票有難度: 一來中產票較少(就算投亦可能係投俾白鴿黨), 二來據悉不少中產係沒有前去票站投票。

若然鬍鬚雄未轉去地區直選而重返社福界的話, 相信會高票當選兼保住多一個民主派議席。

公文袋要做的, 不僅要在地區政績下多點功夫(雖然看來唔多重要, 但呢d野係要accumulate, 否則單憑名氣和廿三條效應係不能足以令市民支持), 而且係減番少少法律界的色彩(雖則多名創會會員係做大狀出身), 走入民眾(我硬係覺得公文袋唔多親民), 否則將會歷史重演。

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Quite a numerous persons to reply to Christina.

The first sign of this person is not quite good, because "she" wrote something "rude" to CM and the comment is quite personal attack.

Maybe "she" thought in details, after that "her" comment is being a bit of positive.

>>I am NOT a very determined believer of God

Although I'm not a Christian and have a little bit knowledge about Bible, I could only say anybodies could believe Jesus and the God, or being its theomania.

On the other hands, there is somebodies are being superstitiousness by another "religion" - although it "use people's god-fearing" to break religious taboo. Some people in religious conscience are terminated this as "the Devil".

But, don't forget the Devil also believe there is a God!

Your would rather be a learner of your religion, than just be a believer of your religion.

Karen (Sze) said...

>>暈都想

係咪倒轉讀呢?

又, 感冒仲未清? 仲做緊見暈大師?

>>我諗住博一博,等醫生黎睇我
無得博o架, 阿哥!

睇。醫。生。啦。

seikomatic said...

CM,

睇完穿梭機大爆,911大炸,睇埋地球沒有了,人類消失了,到時約埋你出泥把酒狂歌,無論天堂涅盤兩不遙。

C.M. said...

(唉,呢排忙到呢...)

小佚 & P.E.T.E.R.:

>>法律是限制大隻佬,保護弱小!
>>(弱小)果d係有錢人

若果越黎越多法律,咁呢個世界咪...

小珠:

嗯... 原來係咁...

P.E.T.E.R.:

>>so don't just be a believer (whether determined or not), be friend with Him

多謝!你個口吻呢,似足VC。

Karen:

>>公文袋要做的, 不僅要在地區政績下多點功夫(雖然看來唔多重要, 但呢d野係要accumulate, 否則單憑名氣和廿三條效應係不能足以令市民支持), 而且係減番少少法律界的色彩(雖則多名創會會員係做大狀出身), 走入民眾(我硬係覺得公文袋唔多親民), 否則將會歷史重演。

以現行制度,地區政績係重要。若說立法會唔需要分區直選,所以根本唔應該太著重地區政績,咁可以參考近排Elvis寫果兩篇。(好想知阿g~ 點講,唔太記得details)

而我大致上認為呢,無論係咪分區,立法會選舉係要選出“可以擔當立法會工作既人”,而選民睇既,好自然會係佢地實質既工作,而唔淨止理念、名氣...

>>Your would rather be a learner of your religion, than just be a believer of your religion.

Thanks!

Sorry and truly, I don't have any solid concept of what "religion" is.

前排睇左醫生喇,食左八日葯。

精工:

>>人類消失了,到時約埋你出泥把酒狂歌

喂,早少少得唔得?我想有對手渣住支咪唱播。

佚名 said...

C.M:
法律是限制大隻佬,保護弱小!
(弱小)果d係有錢人
若果越黎越多法律,咁呢個世界咪...
-->只想有錢人有錢,所以可以利用漏洞,或者請律師來幫他
法律原意是保護弱小,可是有錢人把它「本末倒置」了~唉~

小女子 said...

我變時變左高挑女子 ......

余若虛 said...

唔好迷信法律啦...法律有時只係一班9友為左選票為左個別群體利益而訂出黎既。每立一條法律就係限制左人某啲自由,偏偏有啲人認為乜野都靠立法就可以解決。

cm,保重

Karen (Sze) said...

>>若說立法會唔需要分區直選,所以根本唔應該太著重地區政績

我曾經指出過依家分區直選, 某程度上地區政績是選民留意的一環(但不是主要的一環, 原因係區議會和立法會的工作和功能是有分別); 然而, 不少人仍然與選區議員的準則有所混淆, 以為選立法會議員必須有地方政績。君不見有些候選人是空降嗎? 更重要的係, 部份空降候選人是勝出了分區直選, 嬴的關鍵未必關乎地區政績。

>>若果越黎越多法律,咁呢個世界咪......
>>每立一條法律就係限制左人某啲自由,偏偏有啲人認為乜野都靠立法就可以解決。

太多人以為越多法律越好, 其實都搞唔清楚太多法例(尤其係一些"唔等駛"的, 外國都幾多), 咁又可以代表甚麼?

與其咁講, 不如話一個地方有健全的司法程序和有公平公正的審訊, 才真正發揮建立法律的意義。

(不過, 當年內地居港權案件搞到要人大釋法, 係另一個特殊案例, 亦造成很多政治和法律上的問題)

>>I don't have any solid concept of what "religion" is.

???

>>我想有對手渣住支咪唱播。

預埋我好喎!

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仲有, 您同阿Moon有無為阿細搶購本地賣緊的奶粉呀(例如胃氏同培記)?

小道消息話: 貨源頗緊張(因為本地同國內同胞一齊搶奶粉), 驚阿細無得食, 關心下囉!

不過, 唔食奶粉, 煮粥水都可以吸收營養。

C.M. said...

小佚:

哎呀,唔好成日諗住法律係有錢人專利先得假。

高挑女子:

...都係講事實遮...

若虛兄:

你簡直係我心裏面條蟲呀。

Karen:

關於分區與否,我會想象下,假若「唔分區」既時候,d選民會點揀,又憑乜野去判斷一個候選人可唔可以做事。又會諗下美國人或英國人(是但喇)佢地會點選議員。政績好多時就係佢地工作能力既反映。

又好似毓民果d,佢地既工作能力就反映o係佢地日常參與社會事務既資歷。同樣需要地區exposure。分區與否,雖然對於部分參選人關係(好像)不大,但我會認為,對於另一部分存在地區政績優勢的參選人,所謂欠缺公平的論點基礎不深,因為,選民都需要從不同方面來判斷一個參選人的工作能力;而分區直選,只是強化地區政績作為參選人工作能力的指標而已。

>>與其咁講, 不如話一個地方有健全的司法程序和有公平公正的審訊, 才真正發揮建立法律的意義。

呢個貼切。

>>I don't have any solid concept of what "religion" is.

我意思係,我不知「宗教」為何物,亦無清晰的定義。

>>預埋我好喎!

問問精工先。

>>有無為阿細搶購本地賣緊的奶粉

下?乜要既咩?

佚名 said...

C.M:
哎呀,唔好成日諗住法律係有錢人專利先得假。
-->哦~
咁岩講極都係有錢人者:P

小女子 said...

only 170 cm ja ma ...... 近排矮左呀 ...... 得 168 cm 左右炸 ......

Geoffrey Kong 江貴為 said...

好彩個沖擊器無爆炸,但係個金魚缸爆到七彩lu ...

Karen (Sze) said...

>>對於另一部分存在地區政績優勢的參選人,所謂欠缺公平的論點基礎不深

您咁講應該會氣死那些恃住有地區政績優勢的參選人(事實上, 就算有地區政績, 亦未必真係有著數, 今屆就每區都有呢d人落選之餘, 仲要充公按金, 單憑地區政績不足以勝出)。

>>我不知「宗教」為何物,亦無清晰的定義

百科全書可能幫到您, 但太深入就幫唔到您(怕只怕您深入研究呢樣野後, 您會六親同我地都唔認喇!嗚~)。

>>下?乜要既咩?

您屋企識人有奶粉供應?
阿細大番d唔駛食奶粉?
乜您同阿moon無留意新聞咩?

C.M. said...

小佚:

=p (大家咁話)

阿高佻女子:

加埋你對4寸幾高踭鞋就成180 喎大姐。

江兄:

真係?終於有覺好瞓lu。

Karen:

咦?你有冇立過g~ 點樣講分區選舉?

下?六親不認?唔會卦。最多唔睇百科全書囉。

Errr... 雖然有留意,但真係唔係咁緊張。(呢度講唔緊張遮,查實我聽完你講之後,即刻搵人幫手搜刮倉底貨...)